Introduction to Nintendo DS Programming

(patater.com)

123 points | by medbar 1 day ago

16 comments

  • msk-lywenn 4 hours ago
    Great resource! But a lot of it is very old. I recently discovered this open source ds cart[1] and an alternative SDK[2] to devkitPro. Both were used in the development of a demo[3] released at Revision this year.

    [1]: https://www.lnh-team.org/

    [2]: https://blocksds.skylyrac.net/

    [3]: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=105928

  • spicyjpeg 2 hours ago
    In case anybody here is interested, a few years ago I put together a similar (albeit far less comprehensive) resource on original PlayStation programming [1], exploring the GPU, geometry coprocessor and serial I/O hardware step-by-step with plain C examples. I'm planning to extend it with more examples covering audio and CD-ROM access next, but haven't yet had the chance to do so.

    [1]: https://github.com/spicyjpeg/ps1-bare-metal

  • corysama 2 hours ago
    I’d bet the DS is the most advanced game console where it is still possible for a person to productively program it entirely via the bare metal memory map. As in: using an “SDK” that’s just a C header full of struct and array definitions at magic fixed addresses and no functions at all. Set values and the hardware does stuff.
    • gjsman-1000 1 hour ago
      Probably? Everything else onward relies on libraries...

      Though there were some fits and starts there. The N64 for example is, from what I've heard, heavily library dependent and absolutely brutal to program bare metal (GPU "microcode" that was almost like programmable shaders v0.1); even the GameCube is a significant improvement for that kind of thing.

  • poffdeluxe 34 minutes ago
    Howdy to all the people from #dsdev back in the day!
  • kerochord 2 hours ago
    I will always be grateful that my CS Operative Systems course 'lab classes' introduced assembly and computer architecture with assignments around writing programs for the NDS. It was fun to see our childhood consoles run low-level programs written by us.

    were about writing a program for the NDS

    • jdwithit 35 minutes ago
      That sounds really cool! My CS curriculum had one class where we had to read and write assembly (targeting an emulator for some Motorola chip I don't recall). It was fine but writing something that ran on an actual game console would have REALLY hooked me I'm sure. Instead we got that one little taste of low level development and then went back to writing sort algorithms in Java. This was in the early 2000s fwiw.
  • cunidev 46 minutes ago
    The Nintendo DS is the platform that taught me programming around 2010, via devkitPro, and it really let me understand a lot about how computers work. It was a rough ecosystem back in the day, but a very exciting one. We had no internet connection at home but I had the docs downloaded and it was surprisingly satisfying to compile on.
  • shmolyneaux 3 hours ago
    If you want an architectural overview of the DS, this is a fantastic overview: https://www.copetti.org/writings/consoles/nintendo-ds/
  • bashmelek 21 minutes ago
    I have an old 3DS. Does anyone know if would these techniques, including the Slot-1 devices, also apply? I would like to try this out.

    My only hesitation is the firmware update—-I simply prefer to keep my devices without changes like that.

  • stratts 3 hours ago
    Making homebrew for the Nintendo DS was how I got into programming in the first place. Devkitpro was too confusing for me back then, so I used something called PALib, essentially a pretty hacky library built on top to make it "easy".

    Nice community at the time though, I made a pong clone where the main selling point was that you could switch between different "themes", and a bunch of people contributed some really nice custom ones to be included.

  • Gigachad 5 hours ago
    I had a go at setting up the devkitpro stuff and building a demo that I run on my DS. It’s surprisingly easy to do and kinda neat.
  • crims0n 2 hours ago
    Man this brings back memories. The homebrew scene around the DS and PSP was so lively circa 2005/2006, and it solidified my burgeoning interest in programming.
  • voidUpdate 3 hours ago
    This is exactly what I've been looking for recently. Me and my partner have gotten into reshelling and jailbreaking old handhelds, and we both have DSis that we enjoy, and I've been thinking of homebrewing some stuff for us
  • SilentEditor 3 hours ago
    Damn this is some legit information. I've looked around for some more recent information regarding modding and shelling, any tips other than the ones listed below?

    Thx

  • Jiro 1 hour ago
    This should have a (2008) on it.

    There is no reason to use a slot 2 cart nowadays and the state of the art for a slot 1 cart is the DSPico at https://gbatemp.net/threads/dspico-an-open-source-flashcart-... .

    • medbar 1 hour ago
      Despite the timestamp, I originally uploaded this a day ago and can no longer edit the title. My bad! I didn’t notice how dated the page was until it was too late. Thanks for the link, I’ve been mulling over getting a DSPico to tinker on my old DS.
  • supliminal 2 hours ago
    Next up: getting cheetah running. DS X. Lets go
  • HelloUsername 3 hours ago
    (2008)