1-Bit Bonsai Image 4B Image Generation for Local Devices

(prismml.com)

97 points | by modinfo 2 hours ago

12 comments

  • jeroenhd 2 minutes ago
    Couldn't try it because the demo app is iOS only and the web version just crashes my browser. The small model is impressive but if you front load a 1.8GB text encoder model, the savings aren't quite as useful.

    I do wonder how these compare to existing image generation models. I've tried https://github.com/alichherawalla/off-grid-mobile-ai for a while but I find the image generation models rather lacking.

  • lumost 1 hour ago
    I actually can’t wait for the future where I upgrade hardware in order to upgrade my ai as an alternative to an expensive subscription.

    There are many problems I want to work on which require billions of tokens. These are completely inaccessible without corporate project sponsorship at the moment. An asic generation machine which can pump out a few 10s of thousands of tokens per second at opus4.6 quality is more than sufficient.

    • neals 14 minutes ago
      I'm curious how hardware and power cost would stack up to subscription cost
    • bigmadshoe 37 minutes ago
      Can you give an example of such a problem?
  • sorenjan 1 hour ago
    They call it a diffusion model, but it's based on Flux.2 which is a rectified flow model.
  • wiradikusuma 53 minutes ago
    Is there a benchmark of local image generation models? Local = can run on a 16 GB MacBook or 8 GB+ NVIDIA card.
  • a1o 55 minutes ago
    Anyone could pickup the minimal hardware requirements for this? Like both RAM and Storage?
    • mkl 20 minutes ago
      The white paper says "mean-active memory pressure down to 1.95 GB for 1-bit Bonsai Image 4B and 2.38 GB for Ternary Bonsai Image 4B". Storage is on the linked page, and is about half that.
      • a1o 3 minutes ago
        That is very low, looks like it should run in base MacMini M4 with 16GB RAM. I understand it is not released yet? What sort of harness is necessary for this type of model? (I have only used coding agents through GH Copilot in VS Code, the JetBrains AI tool and Pi, this last one was sort of a pain to setup…)
  • iJohnDoe 3 minutes ago
    Does anyone ever get their stuff to actually work. Like actually load?
  • sudb 28 minutes ago
    Very interested to see where this kind of work goes for on-device video generation!
  • potatoman22 35 minutes ago
    I wonder why they didn't use a Bonsai model as the text encoder
  • janniks 37 minutes ago
    I was expecting to see images of Bonsai trees when I clicked this
    • tobr 36 minutes ago
      I expected a small tree in black and white pixel art.
  • MitPitt 1 hour ago
    Lately I've noticed posts with barely 10 points getting to HN frontpage. Was it always like this?
    • robbomacrae 1 hour ago
      I believe it's the way the HN algorithm works. In order to give new and obscure posts a shot, it will add them to peoples feeds in their front page and see how they measure. Otherwise new posts wouldn't get seen and the flywheel would never get started.

      So everyone acts as a sort of beta tester for obscure posts.

    • s-macke 1 hour ago
      On weekends, yes. During the week, that’s also true if they arrive within a short time frame, e.g., three minutes. Almost no one looks at “New”. That is the real issue.
    • blurbleblurble 30 minutes ago
      Maybe the algorithm has some kind of "momentum" to it, taking into consideration the velocity of upvotes.
    • nickvec 37 minutes ago
      If you are looking to see the "true" HN frontpage (i.e. most upvoted posts), I'd recommend using https://hckrnews.com
    • DannyPage 1 hour ago
      Not as much competition on the weekend?
    • Aboutplants 1 hour ago
      I just assume bots
      • iamjackg 1 hour ago
        Bots doing what? How would the poster being a bot influence why the post itself makes it to the front page with just 10 points?
        • speedgoose 43 minutes ago
          It’s about how quickly they get those points. It doesn’t have to be bots. Sending a post to friends with reputable human profiles, and asking for a vote kinda works of most social networks. Some social networks claim they have protection against this but I wouldn’t bet they catch everything.
  • SilentM68 55 minutes ago
    Question,

    Is it compatible with Ollama, ComfyUI or are those providers unneeded, compatible with low-end hardware?

    Also, where does "./setup.sh/ drop the components in Linux?

    Thank you, Sol

  • yieldcrv 1 hour ago
    impressive, combines a couple techniques that I always wanted the frontier models to have

    having trouble loading the webgl browser demo on my phone but no biggy