We Know Simple Fluids Can Flow. Turns Out, Some Can Fracture

(quantamagazine.org)

64 points | by Anon84 3 hours ago

5 comments

  • jzer0cool 10 minutes ago
    This seems more of inertia, Newton's first law. "An object at rest stays at rest,...". What comes to mind say there is some threshold acceleration (e.g. or at extreme, accelerate to c within some short time, t), then essentially you have a body at rest and breaks at the weakest point. Interesting would be seeing this effect with varying viscosity.
  • nelox 32 minutes ago
    Turns out glass has been known to be a fluid and to fracture for quite some time.

    [edit: but glass is not a simple fluid.]

    • helltone 23 minutes ago
      I thought glass was a solid?
      • Eji1700 6 minutes ago
        It's an amorphous solid last time I dove into this.

        The "well it's technically a liquid!" because it "flows" is really not telling the whole story. Like most science, it's just more complex than can be quickly summarized with one sentence, and doesn't quite map to just high school simplifications.

      • vlovich123 22 minutes ago
        Nope, lots of fluids that just flow over such a long period they appear solid.
        • vlovich123 3 minutes ago
          Not sure why klustregrif got flagged - the answer was informative and correct.

          What I said is true but not for glass. Pitch is a liquid even though it feels like a solid and shatters when smashed.

        • bonesss 6 minutes ago
          That ‘long period’ can be many billions of years, glass is an amorphous solid.
        • klustregrif 8 minutes ago
          [flagged]
  • dd8601fn 1 hour ago
    This looks like silly putty behavior.
    • jdlshore 58 minutes ago
      Oobleck (corn starch and water) will do this too. But presumably they already knew that. The article describes it as being known to happen in “complex fluids,” but that it was news that it happens in “simple fluids.” Presumably silly putty and oobleck are “complex fluids?”
  • animanoir 38 minutes ago
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  • nycdweller349 2 hours ago
    Someone tell me the industries that are going to benefit the most from this in the short and long term and what I can expect to see in the next 30 years as a result of this discovery.
    • JumpCrisscross 28 minutes ago
      It’s a new, generalizable material-science property at STP. Those almost always find practical uses.

      (Off the top of my head, a material that dissipates tension below a certain rate but fails when it is applied faster than that rate seems to resemble a mechanical breaker. As in not an electrical breaker that works mechanically. But one that decouples when you pull on it super hard. Being able to do that in fluids means one can potentially do that at very tiny scales.

      More broadly, if simple fluids have a quasi-elastic mode, that has fundamental implications for hydrodynamics. I'd be super curious to know, for example, if anything similar to this occurs in air or water.)

    • helpfulclippy 1 hour ago
      That sounds like a lot of work for someone to go do for a quanta article about something neat a researcher noticed.
      • calrt 1 hour ago
        I worry that this sort of request will become the norm in the age of AI where people forget that people aren’t there to serve them.
    • gmueckl 1 hour ago
      Maybe it will not have any mmediate application. But guess what? It's still cool! And that can be its very own reward if you let it.

      Oh, btw: electricity was a novelty toy for several long decades with no major practical applications. But that eventually changed because people kept researching it. And it changed the world.

    • lostlogin 1 hour ago
      You made an account to say that?
      • lstodd 1 hour ago
        he had his llm to make an account to post this.