The Forgetful CPU (Linux on M4)

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91 points | by signa11 10 hours ago

4 comments

  • sscaryterry 51 minutes ago
    Imagine how big Apple would/could be if they embraced open hardware. They do have a moat here. macOS is so bloated, I hate it, but the hardware is just so much better than anything else.
    • MBCook 6 minutes ago
      Apple is a vertical company. They don’t WANT to sell you hardware. They don’t want to sell you software.

      They only want to sell the whole package. You might as well ask the Catholic Church to start a rap music 8-track only record club. Same probability.

      The hardware is a means to an end, and nothing else to them.

    • palata 40 minutes ago
      Is the hardware so much better, or is their integration superior? macOS can be bloated but still more efficient, right?

      I mean, the "so much better" in my experience is really the battery life.

      • Quothling 4 minutes ago
        They are the only laptop company who makes a fanless laptop that never gets hot to touch with long batery life. I'm still on my m1 air with the smallest configuration you could get at the time. Yet it's somehow capable of matching my T14 i7 with 32gb og ram for most of the work I do, and it does it without getting hot or having it's fan sound like it's a fighter jet taking off. To be fair my t14 is a corporate windows machine, so it's not like it's a fair fight.

        I'd love to replace it with something like a framework or a tuxedo, but they all get hot to touch. Maybe I'm in the minority, but a laptop not heating up when you turn it on is one of the most important things for it. It doesn't matter much for work, because it'll sit in a dock anyway, but I rarely use my m1 air at a table.

      • mahboi 27 minutes ago
        The Intel period of MacBooks allowed a more direct comparison. Don't think macOS itself is the differentiator vs Windows.

        But vs Linux, well even Linux on a non-Apple laptop tends to mean screwed up power management. The display system might be less efficient too, depending whether it's X11 or Wayland, and idk which one is the good one.

      • adgjlsfhk1 35 minutes ago
        their single core perf is just much better than anyone else
        • oso2k 0 minutes ago
          Not just single core perf though. Very efficient idle TDP, efficient all core boost, efficient all core TDP, and efficient mid-high performance tier accelerator (GPU, NPU) TDP.
        • MBCook 1 minute ago
          They also seem to have the biggest memory pool attached to a GPU at a “reasonable“ price don’t they? There’s a reason people really want Mac Studios.
    • Select13 17 minutes ago
      Apple is one of the biggest companies in the known universe. If every single person on earth who wanted to use Desktop Linux were to buy the most expensive Mac Apple sells in order to do that, the revenue would not be material relative to Apple's existing size. Please exit your bubble.
    • Select2 21 minutes ago
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  • PunchyHamster 1 hour ago
    Weird to buy machine with company actively hostile to anything open to run open stuff
    • inventor7777 37 minutes ago
      Is Apple taking steps to purposefully blocking open stuff, or are they just pointedly ignoring it and continuing to develop new hardware? I am genuinely asking, I don't know myself.
      • Dylan16807 27 minutes ago
        For desktops and laptops, the latter. But for phones and tablets they do not want user control. And even where they do allow it, even a tiny effort in hardware documentation that would make it so much easier never happens. So it's quite hostile overall.
      • lmz 32 minutes ago
        The fact that they still allow this would point towards the latter. They are quite capable of locking it down like they do the iPhones.
        • londons_explore 2 minutes ago
          And I suspect they will lock it down in a year or two.

          It was only really open to ease the transition between intel and arm.

      • rstupek 36 minutes ago
        It’s the latter
    • procone 49 minutes ago
      I think you might be forgetting where you are. They call it "Hacker News" for a reason.
  • polishdude20 35 minutes ago
    I wonder if AI could make this work? Have there been any attempts to have AI do the work needed?