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  • nr378 2 hours ago
    It seems like OpenAI are trying to frame this as if AI did all the work here, but it's not really true given what Calif say (https://calif.io/php2shell/):

    > How did we find this?

    > No special harness, or access to models that weren't generally available to everyone were used in the initial bug discovery. I focused on something I had a background in, knew its vulnerability history well, and held a theory that specific bugs lurk within the codebase. This shows that "know your target" is still as applicable as ever, even in the LLM dominated VR age. No model is simply capable of unearthing "all bugs" with simple prompts. At least for now.

    > There are some practical research implications here. LLMs may have ingested public historical vuln data, but in their default variant analysis tends to move from the newest and most prominent bugs toward nearby older code. They do not reliably begin with obscure twenty-year-old exploitation primitives. Keeping your own mental catalog of a target's vulnerability history lets you prompt that direction explicitly.

    • Jeep_ 2 hours ago
      Pure marketing, it's getting increasingly hard to separate actual technical feats of agents from marketing pretentious declarations. Such a terrible environment to navigate right now.
      • redanddead 1 hour ago
        What’s worse is that this is part of a larger strategy of scaring the public to get regulatory capture

        It’s just gross and manipulative. You have no moat, get over it

        pAtCh ThE pLaNeT today, tomorrow it's creepy rent-seeking behavior

        • orangedog 26 minutes ago
          Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Do you prefer they not engage in helping finding vulns at all? Do you not think there are parts of the company interested in security and doing it for the sake of that?

          I feel like taking every action these companies take as part of some larger strategy is kind of conspiracy-minded.

          • redanddead 21 minutes ago
            Why didn't OAI go back to non-profit again?

            Where's the conspiracy. There is no moat. The technology is easily reproducible. Deepseek unwound an entire business model yesterday.

            • orangedog 6 minutes ago
              The conspiracy theory is suggesting this is part of a larger strategy. I'm just saying it's a big enough company with a wide enough range of beliefs that I find it pretty likely that the direct motives for this weren't to enable regulatory capture.

              But they could be, that's why it's a conspiracy theory.

              • redanddead 3 minutes ago
                Can someone explain to him how corporates work and make decisions
      • Frieren 2 hours ago
        Not marketing. It is a crime related to fraud or securities fraud.
        • orangedog 2 hours ago
          You're claiming this is securities fraud?
          • recursive 2 hours ago
            Not only that, but everything else is also securities fraud.
          • Frieren 1 hour ago
            What is your argument to say that lying to investors and shareholder is not a crime? It seems a weird position to defend.
            • orangedog 1 hour ago
              They aren't lying, they are saying their tool was used in the process of finding this bug. Was it not?
              • esseph 48 minutes ago
                With this bug, it was not. See above comments.
                • orangedog 33 minutes ago
                  > Calif identified a critical flaw using GPT‑5.6 Sol as part of our Patch the Planet (opens in a new window) initiative

                  > 19–24 August 2026: Wiz Research independently collides with the same bug family using Wiz Atlas, Gemini 4 Argon, and GPT-5.6 Sol, reporting its variants on 24 August.

                  I again ask how they are lying? I get if people hate these companies, but blatantly disregarding what is said helps nobody.

      • shimman 1 hour ago
        It's not hard tho, the default mode of thinking should be to never trust what a US corporation says.
        • giantg2 1 hour ago
          Why limit only to the US?
          • shimman 1 hour ago
            US corporations benefit from US corruption and US imperialism. Hard to not think of a more destructive force currently in the world.
            • cyanydeez 35 minutes ago
              keep in mind, the point of most views is a toddler who lies about stealing a cooking isn't corrupt, because they're a child and can't do anything.

              The same view point is used for racism, dei, and the rest: it doesn't matter if the poor beggar on the corner hates white people. They don't have any means or methods to act on it.

      • alper 1 hour ago
        This isn't a security incident as much as it is a marketing opportunity for all these companies.
    • senordevnyc 35 minutes ago
      They literally open by saying Calif used GPT 5.6 Sol, which is a widely available model. Yes, the person driving did more than "find all the bugs", but nowhere does OpenAI imply otherwise.
    • openclawuser 2 hours ago
      In 2024 I saw a reddit post answering the question: AI is going to program insert name App.

      Response: "What's the prompt?"

      Yep. I might take minimum wage interns and make million dollar software(or million dollars in 2023), but they often run into issues that a 5 minute review with me solves.

      I do wonder if AI is going to eliminate prompt engineering... It's basically all I have left. I feel like I have magic words.

      • nemomarx 1 hour ago
        I can't think of how it'll really eliminate prompting, but needing to carefully phrase your language already seems in the way out? Wasn't one of the prompts leading to solving fields problems just "look for fields problems and try very hard" or the equivalent
        • twosdai 1 hour ago
          Why can't I prompt. "Make me a million dollars, no crime" and it work though?
      • cyanydeez 33 minutes ago
        Yeah, I was explaining this as magic words. It seems like knowing `pandoc` means you can convert any kind of document into any other kind of document.

        Knowing uv means you can scaffold any python project. docker lets you build any infrastructure kit.

    • lukewarm707 36 minutes ago
      OpenAI: your misfortune is our PR opportunity
    • mentalgear 54 minutes ago
      Just more IPO shilling from the scam-man.
      • mjaniczek 49 minutes ago
        Thanks for the "Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub" earworm
    • Frieren 2 hours ago
      > OpenAI are trying to frame this as if AI did all the work here

      CEOs of all big corporations are constantly lying and misleading the public, investors and shareholders. That is a crime. A shame that it is not enforced anymore.

  • alper 1 hour ago
    > How can we help identify and fix vulnerabilities in downstream packages while upstream fixes are pending, or backport fixes to older versions that no longer receive security updates?

    Is the company selling a magical code generation machine really asking how it can backport a fix to an older version of the same software?

    Is this for real?

  • grokx 30 minutes ago
    > Patch the Planet

    I'm sure they named it after the "Hack the planet" slogan from the Hackers movie.

  • 12837615 2 hours ago
    The commit $1 billion in tokens to "defenders". $1 billion directly to QA for open source projects [1] which would write 100% code coverage, run ASAN and fuzzers would be more effective.

    But of course there would be no marketing.

    [1] From whom you stole everything in the first place.

    • fritzo 1 hour ago
      I'm as frustrated as the next open source maintainer, but "stole" goes too far. We gave that code away with pride, knowing the world would be a better place.
      • knome 1 hour ago
        Few works are released directly to the public domain. It is my understanding that the public domain doesn't even exist in all legal jurisdictions.

        Most people license out the software under specific requirements and prohibitions. BSD requires attribution. GPL variants require adherence to copyleft when distributing derivative works. A little under half of all github repos don't even have a license, which means that though the source is published, no one has any license under which to copy it or derive new works from it.

        So far as I have seen, whether aggregating and munging these works into abstract LLM weights constitutes fair use is still legally unclear. If not deemed fair use, it is almost certainly a massive violation of copyright.

      • lukewarm707 19 minutes ago
        Worth noting that the ai giants 'stole' from open source, but they also stole from closed source.

        That is, they knowingly and willingly broke the law by stealing an unprecedented volume of proprietary, copyrighted materials.

        Books: Bartz v. Anthropic

        Films and TV: Disney Enterprises Inc. v. Midjourney Inc.

        Music: Concord Music Group, Inc. v. Anthropic

        Photography: Getty Images v Stability AI

        Journalism: Postmedia Network Inc., Torstar Corporation, The Globe and Mail Inc., and The Canadian Press v. Anthropic PBC

    • orangedog 2 hours ago
      To be pedantic, would that not be marketing?

      To be further pedantic, is that really stealing? They are disregarding copyright but was anything taken from anybody? I thought that was the old argument for piracy, ie, nobody was deprived of anything.

      • moregrist 2 hours ago
        It’s marketing, but in a global good will sense of “look how much OpenAI cares about secure open source.”

        This works for established profitable brands that want to build / maintain a good public image.

        This isn’t the marketing needed by an unprofitable startup that wants to show hyper growth before its IPO. They need the “use our product or get pwned” kind of marketing.

  • everdrive 1 hour ago
  • wildmXranat 1 hour ago
    So much fluff and marketing from every group.

    Just give us the damn code to verify things are working since so many have to use stopgap solutions and want to verify them

    • alper 1 hour ago
      The marketing around the response I would bet is the main reason why they couldn't keep it secret.
  • RomannBami 1 hour ago
    l'IA est simplement un outils ce sont les ingénieurs derrière qu'ils faut féliciter pour leur travail acharné.
  • thewillowcat 1 hour ago
    I would simply write code that doesn't have vulnerabilities in the first place.
  • scottgg 2 hours ago
    Did they actually do anything good here ? Is this really marketing in the middle of this shitshow ?
    • Ajedi32 2 hours ago
      They found a vulnerability and reported it; isn't that a good thing? Are you suggesting it would be better to just not look for vulnerabilities, hoping that if nobody knows they exist, they can't be exploited?

      I thought that logic had been widely discredited in the security community long ago.

      • ilogik 2 hours ago
        Calif found the vulnerability, not OpenAI
        • Ajedi32 1 hour ago
          > Calif identified a critical flaw using GPT‑5.6 Sol as part of our Patch the Planet initiative
          • senordevnyc 34 minutes ago
            These people are so blinded by hatred, I don't know why we even bother anymore.
            • Banditoz 25 minutes ago
              I think it's a reasonable ask to know: * What is the vulnerability? * Am I affected?

              It's very difficult to answer those two questions, through all the marketing and fluff text.

            • ilogik 22 minutes ago
              Is this about my comment about Calif being the ones who found the vulnerability and not OpenAI? Am I wrong?
          • ilogik 1 hour ago
            [dead]
        • nicce 2 hours ago
          Wiz claims they they found it with Gemini? I have no idea who actually found it.

          Edit: Apparently both found independently

      • Noaidi 1 hour ago
        If they can find the vulnerability anyone can. This whole "patch the planet" is marketing trying to cover up for the danger AI is unleashing on internet infrastructure.
    • Maxious 2 hours ago
      > 1 August 2026: 2 days after OpenAI invites Calif to join its “Patch the Planet” initiative, Ryan Austin finds the RCE paths, tweets a cryptographic hash on 5 August, and submits the bug and working RCE proof-of-concept to PHP between 11 August and 14 August.

      https://deadneurons.substack.com/p/php2shell-explained-php2s...

    • fock 2 hours ago
      yes, they sat on a working exploit for 2 months to hone their magic "this exploits everything"-script. In other words: criminals.
      • NitpickLawyer 2 hours ago
        No idea what your comment is even about. The researchers that found and reported this did not sit on this for 2 months.

        > 1 August 2026 [...] Ryan Austin finds the RCE paths, tweets a cryptographic hash on 5 August, and submits the bug and working RCE proof-of-concept to PHP between 11 August and 14 August.

        > 19–24 August 2026: Wiz Research independently collides with the same bug family using Wiz Atlas, Gemini 4 Argon, and GPT-5.6 Sol, reporting its variants on 24 August.

        I get some skepticism about marketing copy, but your comment is blatantly wrong and needlessly rude.

        • fock 1 hour ago
          oh, so you say they only sat on it for a week? And then they exhaustively searched all exploit-paths so they have a demo ready 2 months later?
          • NitpickLawyer 1 hour ago
            > so you say they only sat on it for a week?

            This is absurd, and it shows that you have absolutely 0 idea of how any of this works. Finding a bug and delivering a working RCE 11 days later is absolutely not "sitting on it". This is how this works. You need time to test, exploit, confirm, and so on. Sorry, but just stop being so negative. This can't be healthy for you.

      • gruez 2 hours ago
        >In other words: criminals.

        You're not required to disclose bugs, nor is developing exploits a criminal offense (assuming no intent/conspiracy to hack stuff).

  • yearolinuxdsktp 2 hours ago
    Patch the Planet? Not with OpenAI tools.

    How much time will be left in the Defender’s Window between now and an organization getting Daybreak Access?

  • bcvvvy 2 hours ago
    We enabled the disease and provided the vaccine!
    • Noaidi 1 hour ago
      The AI economy profits solely off of the broken window fallacy.
      • gruez 1 hour ago
        But the window was arguably already broken? The opposite would be something like the "bury-head-in-sand economy"?
        • Noaidi 1 hour ago
          Here is an old Daoist story to ponder:

          In taking precautions against thieves who cut open satchels, search bags, and break open boxes, people are sure to cord and fasten them well, and to employ strong bonds and clasps; and in this they are ordinarily said to show their wisdom. When a great thief comes, however, he shoulders the box, lifts up the satchel, carries off the bag, and runs away with them, afraid only that the cords, bonds, and clasps may not be secure; and in this case what was called the wisdom (of the owners) proves to be nothing but a collecting of the things for the great thief.

          http://nothingistic.org/library/chuangtzu/chuang24.html

          • bcvvvy 56 minutes ago
            Ergo, leave your data at home.
    • ex1fm3ta 2 hours ago
      hmmm not sure about this one, the disease was already there it just available to anynone (not only for state sponsored actors) and the vaccine is globally available at a fraction of what it cost to build it.
      • Noaidi 1 hour ago
        The disease is unleashing these powerful AI tools to the public before even thinking about the risks.
        • ex1fm3ta 32 minutes ago
          Automated vulnerability detection existed long before the era of artificial intelligence; many people have been doing this for a long time. All the existing tools and documentation paved the way for what AI is capable of today. Furthermore, undisclosed vulnerabilities still do exist—often discovered by state-sponsored actors who exploit them for opaque purposes (frequently operating outside the legal framework of the country in question).
  • redanddead 1 hour ago
    Feels like a marketing campaign lol
    • podgorniy 1 hour ago
      Point me at anything what _these people do_ that is not a marketing or _confusion_ campaign.