.name Grandfathered

(neil.fraser.name)

172 points | by p4bl0 1 hour ago

10 comments

  • giancarlostoro 33 minutes ago
    > After a long and expensive battle, news just dropped that Verisign is retracting its plan to terminate 22,000 domain names and email redirects. Although they will be closing new registrations for 3rd-level .name domains, all existing domains (including this website) and email redirects will remain indefinitely.

    This was what I figured SHOULD happen when they did this. Allow existing customers to keep renewing, but nobody new allowed, if a tld frees up over time, reclaim it completely and sell it off.

    What they were proposing should really be illegal...

  • kwanbix 29 minutes ago
    Why would they even want to close it? It is probably close to 0 cost tot hem. Or am I wrong?
    • clickety_clack 19 minutes ago
      My thoughts also, but maybe they can make more from a few sites like baby.name than they can from personal domains.
  • derhuerst 53 minutes ago
    previous discussion on the predecessor post, 69 days ago, 547 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49550772
  • Tepix 52 minutes ago
    Vive la résistance!

    Resistance is not futile.

    • cobbzilla 45 minutes ago
      > to my lawyers Jan, Flip and Diégo who threw the book at ICANN

      Resistance with a strong case and competent lawyers is not futile.

      • dataflow 39 minutes ago
        And with a lot of money to burn.
  • kinabalu76 6 minutes ago
    glad this got resolved, bummer it was thrown into question at all
  • a1o 38 minutes ago
    How does one register a domain under .name ? I can’t find info through search because it discards the dot no matter what I try.
    • delecti 34 minutes ago
    • toast0 32 minutes ago
      Same as any gTLD, pick your favorite registrar and they probably support it. Give your registrar money, they'll give the registry money and boom. (more or less)

      When .name was new, you may have needed to contract with the registry directly, it was an early new gTLD and I don't remember if they started with the registry/registrar split or not.

      Afaik, new registrants are not able to register a third level domain, but second level domains have been available for a long time.

    • SahAssar 35 minutes ago
      Available under standard registrars that offer many TLDs, like inwx.com: https://www.inwx.com/en/domain/check?domain=testtest123.name...
      • peesem 31 minutes ago
        but which support the actual third-level domains? for example, my last name is already taken as a .name domain by verisign, what if i want my firstname.lastname.name domain?
        • mercurywells 16 minutes ago
          You'd have to try to find the contact that owns lastname.name and work out a private deal - you won't get ICANN protections though.
    • lambda 15 minutes ago
      Did you read the link?

      "Although they will be closing new registrations for 3rd-level .name domains, all existing domains (including this website) and email redirects will remain indefinitely."

      They were apparently planning on shutting down the whole TLD. They will be leaving it up for existing registrants, but not allowing new registrations.

      • ksala_ 10 minutes ago
        No, they were not planning that. This is only about 3rd level domain as the paragraph you quoted says. Every other TLD don't sell those (afaik). Normally "someone.name" would be a domain, and they would own all the subdomains. .name allowed you to register "one.someone.name" and "two.someone.name" as completely separated domains with completely separated owners. I understand why they should grandfather in existing domains but this was just madness.
        • lambda 8 minutes ago
          Ah, fair enough. I kind of thought that third level domain registration was the whole point of the .name TLD, so I was interpreting it as shutting it down.

          So the weird part then comes in: are all second level domains that have third level registrations now reserved? Do they stop being reserved if the last third level registration expires without being renewed?

          • ksala_ 2 minutes ago
            Good question. Yeah no idea - the email linked in OP says they're going to send a new proposal, I'm assuming it will cover how they're planning to handle it. And I guess that yes blocking second level domains that have a third level already registered is the pragmatic choice.
  • doublepg23 47 minutes ago
    I've had a .name for almost a decade now and was not aware of it's history.

    Shame I didn't register on my lastname .name , I had thought it was a much newer gTLD.

  • eks391 27 minutes ago
    So glad this happened. When I first heard, I assumed that all the folks wronged would simply be disregarded even though Verisign was blatantly breaking consumer protection laws (I assume. If it wasn't, those laws are incomplete). The fact that Verisign even tried still makes me upset though. It's really annoying what several companies will do as long as their hand isn't forced due to legal or social repercussions
  • toomuchtodo 1 hour ago
  • dist-epoch 39 minutes ago
    So, turns out Verisign is not the Devil incarnate?
    • cobbzilla 16 minutes ago
      The Devil is no match for a sufficiently talented attorney